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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:02 pm 
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Two Hanes family foundations donated a combined $2MM to UNCSA last month...

https://www.uncsa.edu/news/20190501-hanes-gifts.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:22 pm 
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wsnc62 wrote:
Read this, and be assured that giving is not dead in Winston-Salem....old money, or new.

https://www.uncsa.edu/news/20190528-art ... gifts.aspx

Keep in mind that development in the past 10-15 years in this city has been unprecedented. We have revived numerous "dead" buildings and high-rises....the Nissen Building, the Pepper Building, the RJReynolds Building, the GMAC Building.... We have millions spent on the east side of the city in the WFIQ, new parks, a new library, new infrastructure going in all over Old Salem, and new at long-last-after-60+years interstate with bridges going thru town, four new buildings on the Wake campus. The list is I'm sure longer. I don't want to ramble on. The bottom line is, the glass is not going dry. The glass is being spiked, and Winston-Salem is the best city I love, and it does it the Winston-Salem way.


Hear, hear! The lack of any new skyscrapers downtown sometimes leads people to lose sight of just how dramatically our city has transformed itself over the last decade or so.


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:07 pm 
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I’ve been reading articles about how easy it is to raise money from the business community in Charlotte. I know UNCSA had a very successful campaign to substantially increase their endowment which is awesome! I guess I’m a bit paranoid about Charlotte’s capacity to “steal” from WS. It would be very easy for them to triple UNCSA’s endowment in a couple of years as an enticement and the top specialized art schools/conservatories seem to have endowments that are much larger (up to $1 billion). I hope you’re correct. The school of the arts is an absolute jewel for this city, and we should do everything possible to make sure they love being here in WS.


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:34 pm 
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waggonera wrote:
I’ve been reading articles about how easy it is to raise money from the business community in Charlotte. I know UNCSA had a very successful campaign to substantially increase their endowment which is awesome! I guess I’m a bit paranoid about Charlotte’s capacity to “steal” from WS. It would be very easy for them to triple UNCSA’s endowment in a couple of years as an enticement and the top specialized art schools/conservatories seem to have endowments that are much larger (up to $1 billion). I hope you’re correct. The school of the arts is an absolute jewel for this city, and we should do everything possible to make sure they love being here in WS.


It’s be one thing if UNCSA was private, but what you’re proposing here is pretty unlikely for a state school in a system such as ours. UNCSA’s donor base is heavily local from what I hear—it was broad-based local philanthropic support that landed WS the school back in the 60s—and while WS isn’t a marquee arts location, nationally, neither is Charlotte or Raleigh. And establishing a new campus is expensive. Where’s the benefit for the state system in doing something like that? UNCSA has had tremendous success where it is for going on 60 years. It thrives in part due to engaged local audiences, but other than the Stevens Center, it doesn’t have vast concert halls or theaters to fill and it’s not primarily focused on drawing crowds like, say, NC Dance Theatre was before it took off for Charlotte.

There are other outcomes—even bad ones— that I’d find more plausible than UNCSA decamping for another city. It is a small school and public arts conservatories are rare. The arts are also controversial at times, and a school that size could suffer if the legislature decides to take it on as a foe in the culture wars. Plus we have no idea what the future of higher education is for anyone. But I think in this case, you may just be borrowing trouble by fretting about an unlikely scenario. We have a jewel. Attend shows (when that’s possible), spread the word, donate money. But I see no need to worry about this outcome.


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:19 am 
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F&M, I completely forgot about Hugh McColl’s attempted raid to move the UNCSA to Charlotte. That was a perfect example of what I was talking about in my comment. I like your idea and to build on that, the city should consider donating the Forsyth County Hall of Justice to them for their visual arts program (or sell it for $1.00 if money needs to change hands)! That would also be a concrete (no pun intended) demonstration of support from the city, and it would also help strengthen their ties to WS. Robinhood, please read F&M’s comments about Hugh McColl. He almost succeeded in moving the entire UNCSA to Charlotte about 25+/- years ago. I try to donate every year to the school because it’s important for the school and Winston Salem. I just know the power of enormous sums of money on the table and how it can make obstacles of any kind quickly disappear. But you’re right, the more support we give (from the immediate area) in any form, helps the school and keeps the area more vibrant!


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:04 pm 
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Certainly worth remembering that nothing is permanent, but the McColl thing was (a) 25 years ago, (b) involved the creation of a visual arts program that doesn't currently exist rather than the relocation of the entire school, and (c) didn't happen. If anything, UNCSA is stronger and better situated now.

I know it's tempting to think sometimes that nothing good can stay, but I know a lot of people at UNCSA and I've never gotten the impression that anyone is considering anything like a move. It's one campus in a 17-campus system. If anyone wanted to try to duplicate it's success, they could massively overfund and expand the fine arts programs at an existing university rather than trying to relocate an existing one. It's not even like a banking program or tech program where links to industry pipelines in Charlotte or RDU would be attractive. UNCSA students are hoping to land in New York and LA. Atlanta and Chicago, to a lesser extent. If anything, some of the alumni have been quoted as saying that the smaller-city location is an asset for training. It's less expensive and supportive, and the students are better able to focus on their work.


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:46 pm 
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Juliard
Yale
NYU
UNCSA

School of the Arts ranked 4th best drama school in the world by Hollywood Reporter.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists ... ls-ranked/


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:20 pm 
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That’s pretty good damn company! Bravo Winston-Salem....


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:44 pm 
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That is truly outstanding - way to go Pickles!!! Only downside is Charlotte salivating.


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 Post subject: Re: UNCSA
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:32 am 
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Some budget details from UNCSA website: https://www.uncsa.edu/chancellor/commun ... udget.aspx I can't wait for the renovations to the Stevens Center to finally begin and a quote from the chancellor ".......and our No. 1 capital project, the Stevens Center"


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